1rst Pool Help..Pump Won't Circulate, So Can I Swim?

by Jason DeFrancesco
(Brampton, Ontaro Canada)

I just recently put up our backyard pool, my first-ever pool. It measures 15' X 48" (457cm X 122cm).


I've got everything hooked up to its pump, but the pump refuses to circulate the water thorough.

I've done all the trouble-shooting in it's manual to no luck. I just can't get any circulation going.

Being that it's not a huge pool, is there anything I can put directly into the water to keep it clean that doesn't require the pump?

Maye something that would circulate by the motion of the swimmers?

There won't be a lot of swimmers in it at once.

Probably no more than 4 people (5 tops).




Thanks for the question Jason and congratulations on your new pool. I'm sure you're going to have alot of fun with it.

I had a route of 50 home and commercial pools in Arizona for years and have been the pool operator for our YMCA for the last 3 years, so any answers you need will come from years of knowledge and real world experience.

Your 15 X 48 pool holds about 5,200 gallons of water, which is not huge, but good enough to warrant a pool pump and filter.

Your first order should be to get that up and running as quickly as possible.

Even if you chlorinate the water, any water that is in the filter will turn to algae very quickly. When you turn the pump back on you'll get a good dose of algae straight into the pool.

Pool water is meant to be circulated and filtered.

Here's some good posts on troubleshooting your filter and pump:

How Do I Fix Low Skimmer Suction?

Pressure Won't Come Up On Sand Filter

No Backwash Or Rinse Pressure On A Pool Sand Filter...

My Pool Sand Filter Has Low Pressure..Low Psi & Multiport Valve Is Leaking..

Not everything will apply to your situation, but there's much information on those pages.

I'll give you some good answers to start with.

First, be sure the water level is up 1/3 - 1/2 from the bottom of the skimmer. If it isn't, your system will draw in air.

Be sure the pump pot is full of water. If it's not, you'll need to prime it.

Fill a bucket with water, or use a garden hose, and fill the pot up. Quickly put the lid on and secure it down, and start the pump motor.

Check the lid for cracks. The O-ring needs to not have any tears or rips. Replace it if it's damaged.

All skimmer valve(s) should be opened.

Bleed the air out of the filter.

Hope this helps and have a fun and safe swimming season.

Robert

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FIRST TIME ABOVE GROUND POOL OWNER NEED STEPS ON HOW TO CHECK THE WATER

by JR
(Rio Rancho NM)

I HAVE READ ALL OVER THE INTERNET AND A LOT OF GOOD INFO, BUT IF YOU ARE NEW TO IT WHERE DO I START AFTER I FILLED UP THE POOL WITH TAP WATER?

I'M NOT A PRO ON READING INSTRUCTIONS BUT I CAN READ THE TESTER. WHAT IS STEP NUMBER ONE? THE CHLORINE, THE PH THE ALKALINITY, ACID DEMAND....... WHAT DID I GET MYSELF IN TO?

CAN SOME ONE HELP ME? HOW DO I START THIS THING?

WHAT NEEDS TO BE BALANCED FIRST IN ORDER TO GET THE RIGHT READINGS TO MAINTAIN IT.

Thank you




Thanks for the question JR

It would be great to have a complete chemical reading...pH, alkalinity, metals, and hardness. I can assume there's no chlorine or stabilizer (cyanuric acid/CYA) in your fill water.

Here's some good pages to start with:

My First Pool..How Do I Add Chemicals & Make Adjustments?

Help!! New Pool Owner

I'd encourage you to get a Taylor FAS-DPD K-2006 pool test kit, or you can get it tested at your local pool store for free:

Pool Water Testing

Water Testing Kit

Without having the chemical numbers I can only be guessing, but I'd start with the chlorine. Get Dichlor. This is a stabilized form of chlorine and will add CYA into the pool.

Be careful when using Dichlor as it can get out of hand quickly.

For every 10ppm of chlorine added with Dichlor, you'll raise the CYA by 9ppm.

For every 10ppm of chlorine added with Trichlor tabs you'll raise the CYA by 6ppm.

Once the CYA is in the range of 30 - 50ppm, stop using that and go to regular liquid chlorine.

Here are the pages to the alkalinity, pH, chlorine:

Chlorine
Swimming Pool Chlorine

Pool Shock

Pool Chlorine

Chlorine Tablets

Pool Chlorine Tablets

pH
Swimming Pool pH Levels

Pool pH

Alkalinity
Pool Alkalinity

Total Alkalinity

Next is to adjust the alkalinity, then the pH. The links above tell you step-by-step on how to do that. To give you exact details on how to do everything would be repeating myself. Everything can be found in the above links.

I think it's not good enough to just add the chemicals, but to have a good understanding of what is going on and how and why you make the adjustments.

The above links will get you going on the right track.

To post a reply, or if you have a similar question, you can see your post on the Q&A page in the "Start Up/Opening A Pool" category.

Swimming Pool Questions & Answers

Check back to this post for updates or answers.

Hope this helps and have a great Summer.

Robert

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Pool In India

by Warren
(Goa India)

First off I'm in India. My pool in the US IS GREAT....here it's a mess.

There is no way to get the water tested... The pool leaks. They fill up three inches every 2nd day.

We just had new equipment installed. A chlorine feeder and uv filter. I must say I opted for a saltwater system but was out voted by the complex we live on.

During monsoon they have kept the pool open this year and rain is in the feet not inches for three months with the temps at 100. They were going thru chlorine tabs by the dozen over the monsoon.

The question is until the pool is fixed of leaks how can we keep it clear. We fill with well water.

It's ok to laugh now. Everyone here on the complex is indian, or british. They think pools take care of themselves by sprinkling chlorine in it every day around the edges. It's an uphill battle but thought I'd ask

Thanks

Warren




Thanks for the question Warren

If there is no way to test the chemicals then I would say there really isn't anything I could tell you. Pools are not simply a "put some chemicals in" and hope they clear up the pool. This is why taking the readings are so crucial.

Anyone who says you clear up a pool "this way" without first knowing the readings, the kind of filter you have, usage, etc.. does not know what they're talking about.

The pool could be green because of a lack of chlorine and too high CYA which renders the chlorine ineffective. Or it could be there's no CYA. You're trying to use chlorine but that too is ineffective. Or it might be the pH is 8.2+ with high or low CYA with the TA at 300ppm, or low TA at 10ppm.

As you can see there are many variables to consider. You also need to get the leak fixed. I could tell you to clear the pool up but you'll simply be topping off the pool with clean water and this will eventually dilute the chemicals. And the question states that well water is being used. It doesn't mention anything about a metal sequestrant.

With the information I currently have it would be an up-hill battle in getting the pool back.

From the info. you gave it sounds like you have a very complex situation that requires immediate attention. I do phone consultations for $29 per hour. It makes things go much faster. Pool owners have found it most helpful, saving them a tremendous amount of time and money in the long run. I will take the time to ensure all your questions are answered. I have nothing to sell so you know I'm not biased.

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Hope this helps.

Robert

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