Totally Basic DE Filter And Valves For A Swimming Pool
(Dartmouth, MA USA)
Last year my opening my pool took forever and the problem ended up being broken ribs in the filter. Eventually everything was taken care of, but I find myself second guessing everything this year. My pool is inground with a vinyl liner. 20' by 40'.
I have a Haywood pump and use DE. I have a main drain and three skimmers. The pool holds 35,000 gallons. I feel a bit foolish going back over this, but would you please go over which skimmers need to be open or closed for cleaning, vacuming to waste, general running etc.
As foolish as this sounds, this is really what I need. Love this site!!!
Thanks for the question Carolyn and I'm glad you like my site.
I will assume you have a good understanding of pool chemistry and how to balance out the chemicals. so I'll just stick to the filtration side, as the question says.
I had a pool in Arizona that had 1 large palm tree right over the deep end. All the bird dropping and everything else that can fall from palm trees fell into the deep end of the pool, so the skimmer in the deep end got a good work out. The one nearest the shallow end stayed pretty clean, so I increase the suction to the deep end skimmer.
I had another pool with barely any landscaping, but lots of rocks and dirt, and it had pop-up floor cleaners. I decreased the skimmers and increased the bottom drain because the skimmers didn't have much debris from week to week. It's all about what balance your pool needs for cleaning and proper water flow.
On the filtration side, you can close all but one skimmer when vacuuming to WASTE. This will give the vacuum the most suction and speed up the vacuuming process. You might not need to go over the same spot 2 - 3 times before it's clean. But remember to keep an eye on the water level as it will drop quickly when you do vacuum to WASTE.
Keep the level between 1/3 - 1/2 up from the bottom of the skimmer. I wouldn't suggest closing the bottom drain. The smaller the hole, the faster the water goes through. A simple law of physics. You run the risk of tearing your DE grids or not having enough water flow through the system.
Again, it's about balance. If it's just normal weekly cleaning, I would recommend vacuuming to FILTER, but if you have heavy cleaning or a bad windstorm, going to WASTE would probably be the best bet. Your main time will be on the FILTER cycle. Run it 10 - 12 hours in the Summer.
I know in Mass. you close the pool for the Winter. If your system is equipped, after backwashing you'll need to RINSE. This gets out the left over dirt and debris in the line after you backwash. Some good pages for DE filters are these:
You might want to see which skimmers need to be open 1/2 way or all the way, including the bottom drain valve. Take a look at your pool. Look at the landscaping. Where is the dirt coming from? Where is it settling? Are there any flowering plants around? Where are they in relation to the skimmers?
Are the trees closer to the shallow end or the deep end? Ask yourself these and similar questions, then make the right adjustments to your valves. It may take a few days to get it right, but you will. Hope this helps and if there's anything else, please feel free to contact me.
FSN O-Ring...Band Assembly/Belly Band Clamp Leaking On DE Pool Filter
by Bob Proietto
I have a Pac Fab FSN 60 DE pool filter.
I have a leak at the O ring band assembly. The O ring has no nicks and I use a magic lube lube.
How often should these be replaced?
It was fine and then I disassembled to clean and now cannot stop it from leaking.
Thanks for the question Bob
Most DE filters have a belly band clamp with a large O-ring/gasket between top tank and bottom tank.
The O-ring can loosen, come out of the track, become distended or flattened if it's not placed correctly. It may need to be replaced if water is leaking from the center clamp.
Be sure you're putting the top of the tank on the bottom exactly as it should be. Sometimes I had to wiggle it a bit, or slide the top back and forth just a hair to allow the top of the tank to seat correctly on the bottom.
Having a pinched O-ring is the most probable answer, or it's not seated correctly.
There's no harm in replacing the O-ring, but you want to be sure the one you have is in good condition before spending any money. No tears or rips.
Be sure to clean the O-ring very well. Any dirt particles and you might not get a good seal.
If your DE filter tank is leaking, not the belly band, bulkhead fittings or air bleed assembly, you'll probably need to replace the leaking tank half or the entire filter.
Unfortunately there's no way to repair tank damage.
Hope this helps and have a fun and safe swimming season.